tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6861480576960760833.post5824507492845501015..comments2024-03-28T11:52:35.171+00:00Comments on Woolgathering in North East England: Michael Sadgrove's Blog: On Saying Farewell to the EU: the morning afterAquiloniushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15098649175728796819noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6861480576960760833.post-46448387104724696182016-06-24T16:57:08.775+01:002016-06-24T16:57:08.775+01:00The trouble is, Jean, some of us don't think w...The trouble is, Jean, some of us don't think we have a compassionate government, and I'm not sure we were subordinate! And we were always going to be British, after all.Athenahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08497065436976563532noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6861480576960760833.post-43533934914917498692016-06-24T13:54:00.072+01:002016-06-24T13:54:00.072+01:00Peace, Michael. Calm yourself. I'm one of th...Peace, Michael. Calm yourself. I'm one of the Leavers, but as I said, I was born into a sovereign state with a competent constitutional government, managed by a compassionate parliament. In those dark days, of course (1939) it was a cross-party government. These are not, by contrast, dark days. As you suggest yourself, we are now freed up to be more confident relatives of Europe and indeed the world. And the same compassionate government - irrespective of party politics - will now use all its skill to fare forward with a new political model. Everything has to refresh, and we have just opted out of an old political system that was no longer fully functional for our needs. Repeat - that does not mean, as you agree, that we opt out of Europe. Of course not! But we have a new, mature relationship with the continent, in place of the subordinate status that has never suited us as the fifth power of the modern world. When you have had a good sleep, you will wake up to this new, challenging and exciting dawn and be glad to remain British! What really pleases me about the state of the nation today is the reversal, pro tem, to oross-party leadership and co-operation. We are 'crossing the threshold of hope', to go forward together in our 'land of hope and glory/mother of the free'. I take glory to mean 'light', a light that extinguishes darkness. Take heart!<br />Jean Holmesnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6861480576960760833.post-55311027097184502582016-06-24T10:57:58.551+01:002016-06-24T10:57:58.551+01:00God is always with us, but remember he is under no...God is always with us, but remember he is under no obligation to rescue us from our own stupidity. He will be with is in times of trouble.<br />If I think back, it's plain we are here by accident. "Dave" didn't want a referendum. He offered one in order to get more votes in the General Election, and was then stuck with it. He probably expected another coalition, and the Lib Dems would have refused to hold one.<br />I don't think Boris wanted out. I think he just wanted to position himself to his own best advantage. Sharing a platform with Dave wasn't it.<br />So here we are, the answer nobody but Nigel Farage wanted, purely by accident. And Boris Prime Minister by Christmas, just as I predicted.<br />We do give more in money than advantages we get back, that is true. But I'm not expecting to see any of that financial advantage myself. Most people won't. Workers' rights are mostly EU laws, which is depressing. So I expect an increase in the exploitation of the poor and powerless by the strong and powerful.<br />And I think most people's reasons are encapsulated in that disgraceful UKIP poster. A queue of people fleeing for their lives made out to be a queue of benefit seekers.<br />I daresay we will manage. <br />I'm sorry you're so upset, Michael. From where I'm sitting, you haven't ceased to be European. Although, my computer doesn't like the diphthong I just put in! You are still you. I'm from Yorkshire. That doesn't stop me feeling proud of my Scottish heritage.<br />And there's another possible consequence. Wur Nichola has a cast iron reason for another referendum in Scotland. And Gerry Adams a good one for a united Ireland. I wasn't sure, as you know. And I think the Remainers led a lack-lustre campaign. But I am a bit depressed, in the lay sense, this morning. Athenahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08497065436976563532noreply@blogger.com